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Since there is no competent fatwa on boycotting Wikipedia until now, we have considered to reactivate this wikipedia under this condition:
 
 
<center>We do not display images that violate Islamic law that is ''awrah''.</center>
<center>What we consider ''awrah'' is based on Shafi'i mazhab, that is all parts of body except face and palm (women) and between navel and knee (man).</center>
 
 
Please vote below (voting only for Acehnese Wikipedia user that understand Acehnese)
 
=== Sipakat (''Agree'') ===
* {{agree}}. -- [[Ureuëng Nguy:Si Gam|Si Gam]] 2 Buleuën Siblah 2011 18.51 (UTC)
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* {{netral}}. [[Ureuëng Nguy:Bennylin|Bennylin]] ([[Marit Ureuëng Nguy:Bennylin|bicara]])
* '''Comment''': There are some ways in which one could have policies that align with some values within Sharia (i.e. some Wikipedias elect to not display certain religious pictures). But the policy of a Wikipedia edition cannot uniformly match a set of religious laws. No matter what language is involved, a contributor from one religion has the same rights as a contributor from another religion. [[Ureuëng Nguy:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 29 Buleuën Siblah 2011 05.43 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
(Please translate the above title into Acehnese)
What aspects of "Sharia" would you find desirable to include as rules on the Acehnese Wikipedia?
Then we can determine which aspects do not conflict with WMF goals, and which ones do.
There are some things that the WMF wants every Wiki to do. And there are some things which the Aceh Wikipedia can do locally that does not conflict with WMF goals
[[Ureuëng Nguy:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 29 Buleuën Siblah 2011 05.45 (UTC)
:What we want is only no nudity in this Wikipedia. -- [[Ureuëng Nguy:Si Gam|Si Gam]] 5 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 19.30 (UTC)
::Kalau begitu saya rasa halaman ini perlu dipindahkan/diganti judulnya, karena kebijakan yang diusulkan bukan tentang keseluruhan Hukum Syariah, melainkan hanya tentang gambar-gambar yang tidak menampakkan aurat saja. (Therefore this page should be moved/renamed accordingly because this page only dealing with awrah images, not the whole Sharia Law.) [[Ureuëng Nguy:Bennylin|Bennylin]] 6 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 15.16 (UTC)
* Update, I just noticed the above ideas. Hmm... in terms of "We do not display images that violate Islamic law that is awrah." and "What we consider awrah is based on Shafi'i mazhab, that is all parts of body except face and palm (women) and between navel and knee (man)." - In regards to whether this is in accordance with WMF principles, or how much it is, that's a good question. I'm not sure. It doesn't sound like it's technically against Meta policies. I wonder if something phrased like "Images which are considered to be nudity in Acehnese culture are not permitted" would work. I think I will ask Meta and see what they think. See [[:meta:Meta:Babel#Meta_policy_and_local_Wikimedia_project_image_policy]] [[Ureuëng Nguy:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 3 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 05.35 (UTC)
 
Why is this discussion in English? Should've just had it in Acehnese and nobody would've noticed. Shoot yourself in the foot, why don't you..? [[Ureuëng Nguy:Seb az86556|Seb az86556]] 3 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 07.16 (UTC)
: As an FYI, in this case, according to the Meta page Seb says that ''it's okay'' if images considered nudity in Acehnese culture are excluded from the Acehnese Wikipedia. Remember that you have to reach a consensus agreeing that it's okay, but, yes, it is not against WMF rules to have a policy like "We do not want images of what Acehnese culture considers to be nudity/lack of dress"
: [[Ureuëng Nguy:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 3 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 17.39 (UTC)
::So the decision is..? -- [[Ureuëng Nguy:Si Gam|Si Gam]] 5 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 19.30 (UTC)
:::It means you are welcome to implement the rule "images considered nudity in Acehnese culture are excluded from the Acehnese Wikipedia" if you wish, and if the community wishes :) - Based on what Seb said, the Wikimedia Foundation is okay with that move.
:::If you want I can help write a guide in English on which images are acceptable under Acehnese culture, and offer suggestions on how to find such free use images
:::If you want me to double-double check, I could send an e-mail to a Wikimedia board trustee and see what he/she has to say. I could send a proposed version of the guideline.
:::[[Ureuëng Nguy:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 5 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 22.15 (UTC)
::::OK. Thank you very much! Now we can contribute again in this Wikipedia. Welcome back Wikipedia.. :) -- [[Ureuëng Nguy:Si Gam|Si Gam]] 6 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 12.17 (UTC)
:::::Welcome back Wikipedia.. :) -- [[Ureuëng Nguy:Jiyuukaminari|Jiyuukaminari]] 6 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 16.11 (UTC)
::::::Amai gèt, good job :) [[Ureuëng Nguy:Naval Scene|Naval Scene]] 8 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 13.34 (UTC)
:I cropped an image and locally uploaded it: [[:Beureukaih:CutNyakDhienImagecropped.png]] [[Ureuëng Nguy:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 9 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 03.15 (UTC)
::Test of cropped image: [[Cut Nyak Dhiën]] [[Ureuëng Nguy:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 9 Buleuën Duwa Blah 2011 08.30 (UTC)
 
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